Episode 3 More on Gender and Sex from the book by Frans de Waal

In this episode I continue talking about what I am learning from the book Different, Gender Through the Eyes of a Primatologist, by Frans de Waal. It includes thoughts on how we sometimes don't see what is alive in the real world and how that can create errors in our thoeries or beiefs. I also talk aboout a female chmpanzee, Donna, whose life transgresses dualistic ideas about sex and gender.